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An Interview
With:
NICK FLANAGAN
CRAIG SMITH: Nick, obviously you've had
a heck of a summer coming over here from Australia since June, playing
some golf, qualifying for the U.S. Amateur and here you are a semi-finalist;
how does that sound?
NICK FLANAGAN: It's definitely far beyond
where I thought I would be. To be here right now is a big thrill.
That's for sure.
CRAIG SMITH: You have sort of done it
in dramatic fashion but while we're watching Bill Haas and some
of the other Walker Cuppers, here comes Nick Flanagan and we don't
know too much about you. Tell us a little about you.
NICK FLANAGAN: What do you want to know?
CRAIG SMITH: What have you been doing
on the golf scene, plans, school travels, since you been over since
June, wash and dry probably, getting tired of wearing the same shirts,
all kinds of travel excitement. Learning a little bit about the
United States.
NICK FLANAGAN: Pretty sick of living
out of a suitcase, that's for sure. But I've been traveling with
two other guys and sometimes two or three other Australians. We
hook up with and get hotel rooms and we get two beds for five guys.
So it's been pretty cramped. We have been getting housed at most
of the tournaments which is great. I started playing golf when I
was about 14. Got into it because of watching Tiger play the '97
Masters, like a lot of kids these days. Yeah, I progressed a lot
quicker than I thought it would. To be in the semi finals of the
U.S. Amateur is just so far beyond where I thought I would be at
19 years old.
Q. When did you decide to come over
to the United States and play the summer and what was the
thought process behind it?
NICK FLANAGAN: I decided to come over,
probably it would have been this time last year we started organizing
the trip. And a lot of the better amateurs from back home that I
looked up to before I came over here did this trip a couple of years.
So I knew most of the top tournaments to play. And we just wanted
to -- the three guys that came over, we just wanted some better
competition. Not that competition isn't good back home, it's pretty
tough playing there. Over here it's the best amateurs in the world,
best courses in the world, and it's just a different level. We don't
have any of this kind of stuff back home. This is completely new
to me.
Q. Who did you come over with?
NICK FLANAGAN: I came over with Ben Bunny
and Luke Kickmont, two Victorian guys. Ben qualified, but he missed
the match play and Luke didn't qualify.
CRAIG SMITH: So what are they doing now?
Are they following you, are they watching, supporting, carrying
your bag, not wanting to watch?
NICK FLANAGAN: No, we are all pretty
game to go home. So Luke when he missed qualifying on the 10th,
at Cincinnati, he went home the day after. And Ben missed after
his 64 and I think he went home two days after he finished as well.
Q. What was your first tournament
this summer?
NICK FLANAGAN: The Northeast Amateur.
CRAIG SMITH: So what started out as a
bunch of guys is down to Nick Flanagan on his own.
NICK FLANAGAN: Yeah. That's pretty much
it. I've got some family friends, Gary, the guy caddieing for me,
Gary Whitehouse and Lynn Whitehouse, they're over here, which is
good because it gives me somebody to talk to back in the motel room.
I don't have to sit in my room and go insane. So they have been
a big help so far.
Q. What tournaments have you played
in this summer? What was the tour, what did it involve?
NICK FLANAGAN: We picked out tournaments
mainly on the point rankings of them. But one of the guys from the
west coast Fred Saulman had been e-mailing Luke for a year or so
trying to get some Aussies to play in his tournaments and he said
he would help us out with whatever. So we went over to the west
coast and played, after Northeast we played the Scratch Players,
which was in Modesto. And played Sahalee Players Championship. He
got us into that. He got us a game at Cyprus Point which was really
good.
Q. What did you happen to shoot at
Cyprus Point?
NICK FLANAGAN: I don't know. I didn't
score out there. I was just out there to have a look. Then we played
the Pacific Northwest, straight over to Porter Cup, Western, qualifying
and then here.
Q. Will tomorrow's semi-final be on
TV back home?
NICK FLANAGAN: I'm not too sure. We get
ESPN, but I'm not too sure if it's going to be on TV back home.
I wouldn't mind getting a copy of the tape if anybody can help me
out with it. But, yeah, because I'm sure my parents would like to
see it back home because I don't think anybody realizes back home
how big this tournament is. We know it's a big tournament, but I
don't think they realize how much goes into it and, I mean, these
media tents and interviews and stuff like that, I don't think they
realize how big it is.
CRAIG SMITH: Tell me how you're getting
from point to point; are you driving some, flying some? And then
follow it up with -- we do some crazy things here in the United
States, what's the most fun thing?
NICK FLANAGAN: The other side of the
road. Drive on the wrong side of the road. That's the hardest thing.
I've only driven probably at one tournament because when I first
got over here I didn't know what I was doing. I've almost been collected
crossing the road because I'm looking the wrong way to start off
with. But, yeah, we have only had to hire about two cars and we
drove -- we had a week off for Scratch Players and in between Northeast
and Scratch Players we drove to Vegas. So I went down there and
stayed there for three or four nights.
Q. What did you do there?
NICK FLANAGAN: Not much. It was too hot
to go outside. So we stayed inside for most of it. Other than that
we have just been flying non-stop. Pretty sick of airports. Pretty
happy if I never had to see one again. But it squeaks by.
Q. It doesn't slow up much for you
after that.
NICK FLANAGAN: No, I thought I might
get a week's break if I didn't qualify for this. Well, I would have,
but I've qualified for this and gone this far. And I get home on
the 27th and I have to go away with an Australian team, four man
team to Port Douglas, which is at the top of Australia for a week
and play the Asia Pacific. And then I get back from there for a
week and then I got to play our Interstate Series, which is 6 days
of 36 holes in a row. I'm looking forward to getting home. I'm not
looking forward to that, I'm going to be pretty tired, in bed a
month, I think.
Q. 6 days, 36 holes a day?
NICK FLANAGAN: Yeah, we have our Australian
foursomes, which is 36 holes. And then the next day we have a practice
round at the course we're playing, which is only 18. And then we
go five in a row of 36. It's foursomes in the morning and singles
in the afternoon. So it's pretty grueling.
Q. Nick, where is your home located
in Australia?
NICK FLANAGAN: I live on Lake Marguarie
in Newcastle, two hours north of Sydney on the east coast.
Q. Great area.
NICK FLANAGAN: Yeah, it's a great spot.
Q. Did you think about ever coming
to the States and playing collegiate golf?
NICK FLANAGAN: I did about two years
ago when I got a package from Minnesota. And at that age coming
from Australia and getting a package from a college over here, I
was pretty excited about it. And I did think about it. But a year
and a half later and two years later I got on our squad, which --
and they send us around Australia playing tournaments. So unless
you want to get any more, like a degree or go any more with your
academics, and I'm just too lazy to come over here and do schooling
any more.
Q. Do you want to turn pro?
NICK FLANAGAN: Eventually, yeah. I'm
not in any rush at the moment. I just want to play as many big tournaments
as I can in the next couple of years and a lot of pro tournaments,
hopefully, and just try and get used to the crowds and the pressure
that these guys have. Because if somebody asks me to turn pro now
I couldn't, I don't think I could cope with the pressure at the
moment. Playing in front of as many people as are out there today,
that's completely unaccustomed for anyone in Australia. We just
don't get the crowds.
Q. Those crowds that are here, do
they affect your thinking or what?
NICK FLANAGAN: I thought they would,
but this golf course makes you concentrate so hard that you really
know they're there, but you don't notice. And the most people I've
ever played in front of before was probably maybe a hundred people
before I came over here. And to play in front of thousands of people
like there was out there today, that's different. It's a good atmosphere,
that's for sure.
CRAIG SMITH: How much has your game improved
maybe in the last, well, over the summer? Can you see your game
improving.
NICK FLANAGAN: From the start of this
year it's improved a lot in the first six months. In the National
Trials back home. I won the National Trial and finished high up
in the last three or four. So it doesn't feel like I'm actually
swinging any better or hitting the ball any better, I just seem
to be able to get the scores. And, yeah, it doesn't feel like I'm
progressing much, but I just seem to be shooting better scores every
now and then. In the bigger tournaments I'm nowhere near as nervous
as I used to be. So I think that's pretty much just it.
Q. Is there one or two holes out there,
say tomorrow now, you're down to four now, you know this is the
big one. Is there one or two holes out there where you can be more
aggressive and feel that you have got a chance for a birdie?
NICK FLANAGAN: Not really. I don't think
there's a hole on the course that you could stand up on and think,
oh, you can make birdie here pretty easy or you can get a good chance
for birdie. The par-5s are probably the only birdie holes out there.
And they're tough enough as it is. You got to hit a good drive,
a good second and you got to on those greens, you got to leave it
in a good spot. I haven't been leaving it below the hole enough.
I've been leaving it above the hole and having to be very tentative
over putts. I think the hardest hole out there is probably 17. Because
of the green. Unless you hit a driver straight at it and perfect,
like Jerry did this afternoon, it's a tough hole.
Q. Oh did the same thing yesterday.
NICK FLANAGAN: Yeah, I seen that shot.
Q. He drove the green.
NICK FLANAGAN: Yeah, but he's been playing
well. He's beat some very good players. So I'm sure it's going to
be pretty tough tomorrow.
Q. What's the been the best part of
your summer experience?
NICK FLANAGAN: Best part, this is, this
takes it by a long way. Winning the Pacific Northwest was good.
It wasn't a massive tournament, but to play two rounds qualifying
and then to go through 64 and get a win, that was a big confidence
builder coming into the big tournaments that I had to play. But
the best thing about it is just playing on the courses over here.
We got to play Sahalee, Cyprus Point, and this course. Some of the
best golf courses in the world.
CRAIG SMITH: Picked up a favorite food
yet?
NICK FLANAGAN: No. I'm not a big fan
of food over here. It's a bit greasy for my liking. Some of it is
really good, but I'm just used to home, I think.
CRAIG SMITH: Thank you very much.
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